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“Retail is a niche market worthy of optimism”

December 11, 2019

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A major player on the European real estate investment market in France, Primonial REIM currently manages €20 billion in assets, with about 10% in retail through its Patrimmo Commerce non-trading real estate investment trust. The investment volume of Primonial REIM, including all classes of real estate assets, amounts to about €3.5 billion per year. Grégory Frapet, its CEO, talks to
Parlons Commerce about the company's strategy for retail real estate.




What is the position of Primonial REIM on the retail real estate market?

The funds we manage are mainly placed in office buildings and health facilities, but retail remains a niche market in which we are confident. We are clearly entering a new era in which having a retailer for tenant does not guarantee a steady, easy-to-come-by rent. Today, we must approach this market in a much more segmented manner and get hold of tools to understand what's happening, because some models, such as the hypermarket, are outdated for sociological reasons and there's no turning back. Nonetheless, if we have the right yardstick and identify sound locations and reliable and innovative retailers, we can be optimistic, and we are.
 

What's in your current portfolio and how is it changing?

We now have 550,000 sq. m of managed retail assets, distributed between retail parks (37%), shopping centres (31%), High Street retail (21%) and outlets (6%). We also manage mixed portfolios that include retail (5%). We give priority to High Street retail and, selectively, retail parks when allocating funds.
For retail parks, we target sites that are true destination points. We share with other stakeholders like Frey and Compagnie de Phalsbourg the fundamentals of successful retail in the 21st century, which must combine architecture, respect for the environment, consumer welfare and the digital experience.    

For High Street retail, we invest in Paris and major regional cities, in first-rate segments on first-rate streets, meaning locations where there are flows and that will always find tenants thanks to their unquestionable quality. We are very proud to have recently acquired premises in Paris on Rue du Bac and in the open-air gallery in the new Batignolles district. We also invest in mixed portfolios, including residential, office and High Street retail spaces, as in Marseilles and most recently Lyon, coincidentally on Rue de la République in both cities.

It's a model that we strongly believe in, linked to the dynamics of metropolitanisation driven by favourable demographic and sociological changes in some cities.

Our strategy for shopping centres is defensive because they have been weakened by the ailing hypermarket model. We are however confident that these assets can be reworked in a way that aligns their interests with those of their anchor, hence our stake in the capital of real estate companies Carmila for Carrefour shopping centres and Galimmo for Cora.

 
How does Primonial REIM manage its real estate assets?
 

Primonial REIM has asset management teams dedicated to each asset class. Valerie Pares, a recognized specialist, manages retail. We analyse and categorise—strategic, needs rework and for disposal—all our assets and establish support measures for sites that need it.

We have no internal property management structure for retail because we prefer to rely on local partners, also responsible for leasing. We select them carefully at the most local level.

Finally, we're committed to actively partnering with our retail tenants to adjust their rent-to-sale ratios optimally. We are developing specific strategies for portfolio assets, adapted to the local context and the expectations of locals.

For the mixed real estate covering 127,000 sq. m we acquired in 2017 on Rue de la République in Marseilles, Primonial REIM teams are actively collaborating with the town council and all other stakeholders in the redevelopment of this iconic street to create a retail offering with a strong identity.

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